Wednesday, September 24, 2008

Grammar a Day - Level 1 [ なくして (nakushite) ]

なくして (nakushite) - If it wasn't for...


--- Examples ---
愛なくして、結婚生活は続けられない。
If it wasn't for love, marriage would not succeed.

民主主義なくしては達成できない。
If it wasn't for democracy, it would be unattainable.

苦労なくしてもうけなし。
No gain without pains.

私の許可なくして、君はそんなことをすべきではなかったのだが。
You should not have done it without my permission.

忍耐なくしては、誰も成功することはできない。
Nobody is able to succeed without endurance.

--- Comments ---
I think a good translation for this is 'If it wasn't for_,'. (contributor:
blabby)

I agree that it should be translated as ' If it wasn't for...'.
By the way, in ex #5309 the usage of なくして seems strange. Because it
sounds strange when translated,
[ If it wasn't my permission, you should not have done such a thing].
〜なくして(は)...ない where the usage usually comes with
'If it wasn't ..., then..(followed usually by sentence stating : can't /
doesn't have the potential or possibility to do or have something)'

It should have been :
「私の許可がなかったら、君はそんなことをすべきではなかったのだが...」
If there wasn't any of my permission, you shouldn't have done such a
thing...


Or
「私の許可ではなかったら、君はそんなことをすべきではなかったのだが...」
If it wasn't of my permission, you shouldn't have done such a thing.

Or another example for なくして,
皆さんの協力なくして、そんなに辛い事を解決できないのだ。

(contributor: 誠)

As for #5309, I don't think the Japanese is wrong even if it sounds strange
when translated. Please advise a proper translation for it. (contributor:
Miki)

ex #5309 would mean that
if it wasn't of my permission, you shouldn't have done such a thing.

I am actually doubting the usage of なくして in that example,
not the Japanese.
Instead I suggest:
私の許可なくして、君はそんなことを達成するのが無理だ。
If it wasn't of my permission, it is impossible you could achieve such a
thing.

After なくして、 it is natural to be followed by something that one
can't achieve or something that is impossible to happen without it.

In #5309, it is 'shouldn't' instead of 'can't/impossible'

Here are some examples from a book:
1.彼は、人工呼吸器の助けなくしては一日も生きられない体だ。

2.日々の努力なくして、成功はあり得ない。

3.それは、涙なくしては見られない感動的な映画だった。

4.皆さんの応援なくして、優勝はなっかったと確信致します。

5.苦しい練習なくして、試合に勝つ事はできあないのだ。

6.悲しみなくして、人生の喜ぶを知ることはできない。

7.如何にお金があろうと、育てる者の愛情なくして、子供は幸せになることができない。

There is a difference between 'If it wasn't for...' with 'without'.
(contributor: 誠)

みきさん、
Below is some explanation from my 先生:
「私の許可なくして___」の文は日本語ではあまり使いませんから、
正しい文は「私の許可なしで___」でしょう。
or
「私の許可なしに、______」 (contributor: 誠)

私の許可なくして is perfectly valid in terms of written Japanese.
In terms of spoken Japanese, perhaps 私の許可を受けないで would
be normal, even though 私の許可なしに would also be acceptable.
(contributor: bamboo)

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