Saturday, April 5, 2008

Grammar a Day - Level 1 [ 〜の至り (noitari) ]

〜の至り (noitari) - completely; utmost

--- Notes ---
formal, written.

Noun + の至り

Notes: Formal. No kiwami and no itari mean exactly the same thing and are
also exactly the same grammatically. The only difference is that no itari
sounds more humble.

khongbietboi, according to my JLPT1 grammar book what you are saying isn't
entirely correct. no itari can only be used for the speaker, whereas no
kiwami can be used for others as well. so they are NOT exactly the same.

--- Examples ---
赤面の至りだ
I was completely embarassed

若気の至りで
in the folly of youth

喜びの至り
utmost joy

冥加の至り
great blessing

憧れの女優に握手してもらって、もう感激の至りだ。
I shook the hand of my favourite actress. I was completely overwhelmed.

--- Comments ---
is this the same as (contributor: dc)

maybe has more of an implication of something that lead up to this
situation? like - same kanji 至る (contributor: dc)

I read that this is mainly used with experssions of emotion. 光栄,
感激, 若気,感心, etc are commonly used. It is ofen inerchangable
with 〜の極み but 〜の極み is also used for words of non-emotion
such as 疲労の極み. (contributor: blabby)

Can somebody confirm if 〜の至り is used only for emotions.

贅沢(ぜいたく)の至り and 低俗の至り are wrong because they
are not emotions. Right?

They should be 贅沢の極み and 低俗の極み right??

Is ther an easier way to tell the difference between 〜の極みand
〜の至り? (contributor: blabby)

I am not sure if you can categorize 至り as relating to emotions
and 極み as not. 光栄の至り、汗顔の至り
and 慶賀の至り, etc., may not just relate to emotions. It is hard to
set up any rule to differentiate.
(contributor: bamboo4)

Everyone, according to my JLPT1 grammar book, an important difference
between の至り and の極み is that the first can only be used for
yourself (the speaker), whereas the latter can be used for others as well.
Hope that helps (contributor: mankind)

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Friday, April 4, 2008

Grammar a Day - Level 1 [ 兼ねて (kanete) ]

兼ねて (kanete) - combine with

--- Notes ---
Noun + を + 兼ねて
Noun + を + 兼ねる


--- Examples ---
大阪の仕事を兼ねて京都見物に行く
In going to Osaka on business, I'll combine it with a sightseeing visit to
Kyoto.

総理大臣(首相)と外務大臣(外相)とを兼ねる。
Hold the office of Prime Minister concurrently with the portfolio of
Foreign Minister.

私は勉強と遊びを兼ねている仕事につきたい。
I want to get a job that mixes work and play.

作文の練習を兼ねて、日本のペンフレンドと文通をしています。まあ、一挙両得というわけです。
Combined with writing practice, I am corresponding with my Japanese pen
friend. I guess I am killing two birds with one stone.

趣味と実益を兼ねて日本語の勉強をしたが、いつの間にか、通訳が本業になってしまった。
Along with personal interest and practical reasons, I studied Japanese.
Before I knew it, translation became my main source of income.

--- Comments ---
Thank you for putting this page up.
(contributor: bamboo4)

Does anyone know if it is possible to use this in a form other than
Noun+を+兼ねて? (contributor: blabby)

I thought of examles other than Noun nor noun phrase, nothing comes up.
noun phrase eg. 頭を冷やすのを兼ねて公園に散歩に行く
(contributor: Miki)

Thanks for your help Miki, I'll add it to the notes section. (contributor:
blabby)

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Thursday, April 3, 2008

Grammar a Day - Level 1 [ からすると (karasuruto-2) ]

からすると (karasuruto-2) - from (the point of view)


--- Examples ---
メールを受け取った方からすると、何のわるぎもなくついうっかり転送してしまったということでも、発信者からすると自分が丹精こめて書いたものを、無断で第三者に転送されてしまったということにもなりかねません。
As the person receiving the email he might casually forward the message
with no ill intent but for the person who sent the email, put together with
hard effort, to be sent on to a third party without notice could be
unforgivable.

知っている側からすると
From the point of view of those who know ...

この見地からすると、君の言うことは正しい。
From this point of view, you are right.

空模様では、からすると、雨はしばらくは止まないだろう。
From the look of the sky, I'm afraid the rain won't let up for a while.

空模様からすると、今夜あたり雪になるかもしれない。
From the look of the sky, it may begin to snow tonight.

私の美的観点からすると。
I from an aestheitc point of view.

周りの事情からすると彼女の話は本当らしかった。
The circumstances gave color to her story.

買い手の立場からするとこれらのCDプレーヤーの値段は、高すぎる。
From the buyer's point of view, the prices of these CD players are too
high.

彼の案は私の見方からすると、とてもいいようにみえる。
His plan seems very good from my point of view.

法律の観点からすると、彼は自由だ。
From the standpoint of the law, he is free.

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Wednesday, April 2, 2008

Grammar a Day - Level 1 [ たりとも (taritomo) ]

たりとも (taritomo) - Even only / Even merely / Even just

--- Notes ---
Small amount + たりとも。
Often the small amount starts with a 1. 1円, 1分, 1セント, etc.

〜たりとも...ない  : (1円/一日/...)
              であっても〜ない

often with negative potential form, できない、許されない

--- Examples ---
ご飯の一粒たりとも無駄にするな!
Don't you dare waste even one grain of rice!

こんなテレビゲームをやる時、一瞬たりとも気を抜くことが出来ない。
With this type of video game, you can't afford to lose your concentration
for even just a second.

1センチたりとも進まない。
Not progress even a centimeter.

--- Comments ---
#5444 is awkward. You just use も in that case and say:

1センチも進まない or 1センチも進むことができない.
たりとも in such cases is used to prevent or deter the progress. E.g.,
1センチたりとも進ませない.
(contributor: bamboo4)

agree with bamboo on #5444 (contributor: 誠)

Besides which 'Not progress' is bad English. (contributor: Paul)

Agree with bamboo (contributor: サリル)

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Tuesday, April 1, 2008

Grammar a Day - Level 1 [ 〜をおいて (wooite) ]

〜をおいて (wooite) - apart from/leaving aside


--- Examples ---
あなたをおいて、この会社の社長の適任者はいない
Apart from you, there is noone suitable for this company's President.

--- Comments ---
を措いて wo oite followed by 〜ない or negative (contributor: Miki)

How is this different from 以外 【いがい】? (contributor: yookoso)

昨日の事を措いて、今日はどうやて帰るの?

I'm wondering if this is grammatically correct? (contributor: ozonitabetai)

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